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Over 50, and Zero Job Offers

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By Anne Fisher, CNNMoney

interviewDear Annie: I'm a week away from my 54th birthday and, man, am I getting discouraged. After being laid off from a fairly senior job in May, I've spent the past few months networking nonstop, and managed to get three interviews. One interviewer never got back to me at all, and the other two both said I am overqualified for the jobs they have to offer.

I suspect that "overqualified" is corporate code for "old and expensive," so I tried to explain that I am more than willing to take a step or two down in position and salary (both my kids are out of college now, and our mortgage is almost paid off), but I still hit a brick wall. How does one get around being seen as "overqualified"? --Highly Experienced

Dear Experienced: A new ExecuNet survey suggests you aren't the only one who suspects your age may be working against you. Fully 91% of 258 headhunters in a recent poll said they believe age becomes "a significant factor in a hiring decision" when a candidate is over 50.

Interestingly, though, fewer than half (41%) of 4,680 over-50 job seekers themselves ExecuNet polled in the same survey think their age has hurt their chances of being hired.

Perhaps that's because, while age bias certainly exists, "there is far less of it than many people fear," says Rob Saam, a senior vice president who is head of the career transition practice at outplacement giant Lee Hecht Harrison. "Human resources professionals and hiring managers are well aware of all the research showing that someone 50 or older is likely to stay longer, be more dedicated, and be absent less than the average 30-year-old."

So how do you find employers who agree? Whatever you do, don't stop networking, advises Saam. "Otherwise, on job boards for instance, you're relying on your résumé alone," he says. "That isn't nearly as effective. If someone sees, not words on a page, but a vibrant, energetic person sitting across the table from them, age becomes much less of an issue."



Networking also gives you an advantage over younger candidates, says Lauryn Franzoni, executive director of national career-development network ExecuNet. "Your years of experience also mean you have more contacts to tap who are likely to be in a position to help you get your foot in the door," she says. "Keep moving on until you find connections and organizations who see your value."

Let's assume you were vibrant, energetic, and positive as all get-out during your three interviews, to no avail.

The problem, in interviewers' eyes, might not be pay or age bias so much as the fact that you recently left a "fairly senior" job, as you put it, says Erik Sorenson, CEO of career site Vault.com. He recommends thinking hard about why a step down in rank really is okay with you, and then talking about that.

"For example, a less senior job may well be a less stressful job, and that may hold a lot of appeal for you at this point," Sorenson says. "But you have to be sincere, because if you say something like that and you don't really mean it, the interviewer will sense your ambivalence and see trouble ahead."

He also suggests cultivating a certain humility, if you haven't already. "Don't forget there is a delicate balance here. You don't want to be seen as gunning for the hiring manager's job," he says. "Talk about how much you want to be part of a team and make a contribution. You might also mention your willingness to mentor others. Another strong point would be enthusiasm about taking on special projects. The point is, you want to convey that you have no hang-ups about not being the boss anymore."

Meanwhile, Sorensen adds: "You were smart to mention that you're amenable to a pay cut because your kids are grown. Legally, employers can't ask you things like how many kids you have or how old they are, so if that whole area of your life is relevant to your career plans now, you have to be the one to bring it up."

You don't mention whether you've been job hunting in the same industry, or the same size companies, as you worked in before. Sorenson has noticed that over-50 job seekers often find a warmer reception in a business that is related to their old field but not actually in it, or in smaller companies where long experience may be relatively rare and thus more valued.

"Startups in particular often lack the kind of long-range perspective and strategic insights that older managers can bring," he notes. "You may need to get a little bit out of your comfort zone, and cast your net a bit wider, to find the right opportunity."


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lifesgreater

It's the same in the uk . . . Over 20 years dedicated experience and no prospect of work, life is for the young hit 50 and I feel we should all die and make life easier for the rest of them.

May 07 2012 at 3:30 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Sarah Jones

I am happy to visit it.
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Sarah Jones
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March 31 2010 at 5:41 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Sam Sanks

Please forgive the book-like length of this note… I am new and late to the game here!

Fellow "old" Persons,
I, you… are now old! I am 52 and I am considered career-old now! I am in excellent health, young at heart, and generally a happy soul with a passion for people and business with 25 no stop success years!

Can you see me yet?... in your mirror... can you see yourself in these statements?

It’s bizarre that in one century we have extended the life of the average man to twice what it was in the 1940’s and yet we are seen as old. By those standards, middle age was 20 years old! Certainly they did not live long enough to have extended major health concerns which are a large part concern for corporate America. Also having been in large corporations, they are very afraid of women over 35 because the numbers bear-out that a middle-aged woman adds significant burden, as they incur far more serious health issues than a man of the same age. Frankly, I was amazed by this and further that we were discussing it as a business planning strategy!
Boomers are now old and being the largest population group, we continue to be targets! Unfortunately, we are not just marks for marketing; we are also marked for obsolescence! I’ll admit to considering that part of my career growth would be to replace an early-boomer since I am a “late-boomer”! Consider that, “Billions have been made marketing to us over the years”; however, we have also discovered that we are not being marketed from! All of this knowledge and skill is being dismissed, in the same way that I am being seen / perceived as “too old”! This is particularly disturbing given that so often this is being done without the consideration of a physical image (photo / image), meeting / discussion!
My message to them, "veiled of course", is simple! Exploit me! Yes I am older than you; regardless, I would love to work here with you to build a winning program as a team and for my personal legacy...etc!

Unfortunately, while we don't mind working with younger potentially "less experienced" people, they mind doing so! No… they won’t tell us this directly… they use code / buzz words to do it! I won’t validate them here… we all know them and for legal reasons, many of us have used them as well! I will say that I never fired anyone without fully considering other areas where they might be a better fit… which unfortunately is rare… companies rarely admit or try to work-out situations where they make a bad hire! It is just easier to find another body and hope they work-out!
So now we have worked very hard to create a CV / “pride sheet” that is seemingly worthless to a job board, or a hiring manager. Very frustrating! However, we have created a masterpiece according to the “predators” that prey on us! The internet scams (lottos and process our money through your account), the “Resume writers” (we can make you attractive for money (funny how they won’t do it on consignment!), the lousy headhunter that tries to put you into something obviously wrong, the “Insurance Guys” that want you to invest thousands on certifications so you can spend nights / weekends trying to convince people in a severe recession to buy insurance they can’t afford!

Oh, and let’s not forget the latest version of the Pyramid Scheme… Home Based Business… Give me a break… Karen T and Jonathon… if you are so happy and proud of your business, then share with us what you do and provide verifiable evidence that you are making money having fun at home!
I have created and sold over $1B in products and today I can't buy a job! I am a business / development sales guy... and a strong people person who has been without a job for 3+ years, after my employer folded with no notice at all!
You don't have to look too closely at your screen to "not see me" or "my skilled ability" to make you feel "at ease" nor how I make you want to "partner with me" for our "common good"! Why?
Because I am a 3-D vocal person trying to use a 2-D written instrument to paint a picture of me and what I can do for your company! For 20+ years, I never had nor needed a resume! My reputation and networking would bring more offers than I cared to have! I was well kno

January 05 2010 at 10:48 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jonathan

Hi Everybody,
My company is hiring and we welcome experienced people, I'm one myself.You are welcome to email me at wealthisgoodhealth@gmail.com

January 03 2010 at 7:14 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
danaq

I'm an employer, about to retire after many years of work. After hiring many, many people over many decades, I would say that the most important things are these: 1. Can you write and speak correctly? I toss all resumes riddled with writing errors, and I don't hire those who cannot speak intelligently and intelligibly. If you can't write and speak, you can't communicate properly. I don't want to have to apologize for errors and unprofessionalism, and I don't want to spend all my time correcting errors. Also, I don't want shoddy writing and speaking out there representing my department. 2. Do you plan to show up every day? You would be surprised how many people start telling me when they have to be off, before we are even through the interview. 3. Do you appear threatening and scary? NO thanks! I don't hire people who crush my hand, stand in my personal space and loom over me, are dressed sto frighten, and talk about how they have intimidated others. 4. Are you honest? This is the most difficult to determine, alas.

Good luck! Soon one of you will have my wonderful, fascinating job.

December 25 2009 at 3:26 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
big mike

My story..Laid off at 63...resumes sent out to every job board...no interviews...no calls...live in los angeles, california...it's the pits.....BUT I'm still alive, healthy, and have another day to see the family, friends, and the sun rise.
Hang in there, everyone.
Good luck to everyone..

December 20 2009 at 7:49 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
myold55

Over 50 and no jobs on the horizon - seems very common. I'm 62, have a mechanical engineering degree and 30 years of business management experience. I've been unemployed for 3 years now, have been "seriously" looking for 3 years, with zero success, that's right zero interest. When discussing the option of a down-sized position does arise, in my experience interviewers give this little if any consideration. Where are the statistics for those like me who have given up on the system. This may sound like venting, but reality is a hard truth.

December 17 2009 at 8:48 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Ron

Yea, that's a big problem. Too many newbees with 2 years exp are being put in charge. To a 30 year old hiring manager, 40, 45, and 55 all look the same - old as hell.

Age discrimination is going on big time, even under 50. If you are 45 and try for "entry level" you won't even get called to an interview, so going back to school is a big waste of time too.

What is networking really?- that is a very vauge term. Is it the same as ass-kissing? I worked at a crappy job with other losers,
so all you could get was bridges to nowhere.

December 17 2009 at 4:22 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jane

I wouldn't trust these internet "offers" as far as I could throw Rosie O'Donnell. Want to be your own boss? Try REAL companies like Avon, Amway, Mary Kay Cosmetics, Tastefully Simple.

November 22 2009 at 5:48 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Carolilne Selllars

I am 65 years old and am now divorced. I was divorced 2 years ago. I have not worked since I got married. Before I was married I was a travel agent, I speak spanish, I owned my own Retail nursery and la ndscaping company, until my second husband passed away. My divorce was in Texas and it caters to the males. I basically lost everythibg. I am so scared of loosing my little villa. He only has to pay for it 3 more years. I need to make at least a thousand dollars clear each month. Posssibley more.

I Can cook, sew, am good with children. I was a receptionist and have an English accent. I have long blond hair, am 5'4" tall and weigh 114. Please help me I Know That I have aged a lot but I am willing to try anything as long as I am not on my feet yo Long. Working out of the house is certainly an option I would be glad to try.

Desperate in FL Palm County

Thank you so much for reading an old ladies plea.

Sincerely,

Caroline

November 21 2009 at 8:09 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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