Joe Turner, the Job Search Guy
"I was fully qualified and it makes no sense."
"They simply don't know how to hire."
"They told me that I was overqualified."
Randy Block, a seasoned career transition coach and consultant in the Bay area, hears these comments often.
If you're an "older" job hunter, more than likely, you already know that the ultra competitive job search process in today's economy is especially hard on you. Part of the challenge you're facing is a major generation gap between Baby Boomer job hunters and the Gen-Xer hiring managers of today. As Block noted, "30-somethings don't want to hire their parents. Unfortunately, that's how we often come across - as their parents."
You can succeed during interviews with younger hiring managers, but you'll want to think and act differently. Here are five areas to start with:
1. Show passion for your work
Relationships are based on shared values, Block says. He believes that shared values make up most of what we call chemistry. Chemistry is enhanced when we meet others who have a shared or common interest. This extends to your work, profession or industry. If there is little passion or commitment from you for your work, how can you expect others to get excited during the interview? On the other hand, if you consider yourself driven or committed to what you do for a living, you'll most likely meet up with a hiring manager who has a shared interest in the same area. This in fact, may be a new area for you as you undergo a possible career change. It gives you the opportunity to take your transferable skills and put them to use in some new ways for a different industry. If you're genuinely excited about your possibilities, your excitement can be contagious, especially during your interview.
2. Sell your brand
The best way to prepare for an interview is to start with a focus and brand that actually sells you. Develop a personal brand statement for yourself, a simple sentence that offers three very important selling points about you. First, it should say who you are. Second, it should offer your biggest strength(s) and third, it should offer the biggest benefit that you bring to your next employer.
The purpose of your brand is to go beyond mere duties and job descriptions and get to the "what's in it for them" benefit that will make the employer sit up and take notice.
3. Being "led" versus being managed
Another disparity that needs to be addressed, according to Block, is the fact that Boomers want to be "led" and not managed. In his coaching practice, he found that most 30-something managers look for someone they can manage. In coaching sessions with young managers, he observed that their leadership skills typically lag behind their management skills.
If you're a Boomer, take note and realize that you might not get the visionary leader you hoped for in your next hiring manager. Block has discovered that most young managers need help and guidance. They actually appreciate being mentored, coached or advised. They recognize the need, but look at it as a temporary or project-based opportunity.
This is an opportunity to sell yourself as a consultant whose many years of expertise can be useful in the role of a temporary coach or mentor. This may be a great meld between the "management versus leadership" dichotomy. This also increases your opportunities since companies are hiring more consultants in this economic downturn. As the economy improves, that 1099 contract could well turn into a salaried position.
4. Think "tactical" versus "strategic"
According to Block and other employment analysts, many companies today view their short-term survival needs as having paramount importance. They're looking for players who can hit the ground now and help them grunt through the next six to nine months. That will require a change in your marketing approach as phrases like "long-term" and "strategic" won't have the sales impact of a year ago. Rather than emphasize the long haul in your résumé and interview marketing, look instead at selling yourself as an expert who can get in and fix the problems of today quickly and efficiently. Downplay any talk about long-range solutions and instead, focus on clear results-oriented achievements for short-range problems.
Talk money
Money talks and it talks loudly. Money can also trump age, so try to get as close to the money as you can when you describe who you are and what you bring to the table.
Keep in mind that all organizations have only two basic needs: revenue and productivity. This is what keeps any top manager up at night. If your brand can help them, they will seek your advice and counsel. Therefore, come to the interview armed with specific examples of how you can solve their money (or productivity) problem. Your past achievements are examples of how to tackle the similar problems they're faced with today. If you can show yourself to be the problem-solver they need, you'll quickly rise to the "short list" of candidates. Your goal is to become the "go-to" person for their short-term revenue or productivity problems.
Summary
The Gen-Xer's need your help. Your working relationship will likely begin as either part- time or a short-term contract but can extend into full-time once you've proven yourself. Focus on ways you can help their short term "survivability" through this recession and get as close as you can to their revenue or productivity concerns. Talk money and how you can help them produce immediate results. A younger manager would have to be very shortsighted not to explore a working relationship with someone more experienced. Capitalize on your wealth of experience to make a positive difference in the lives and careers of the Gen-Xer's.
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Search by Company | Search by IndustryA former recruiter, Joe Turner spent 15 years finding and placing top candidates in some of the best jobs of their careers. The author of Job Search Secrets Unlocked and Paycheck 911, Joe also hosts his weekly Job Search Guy Radio Show on JobRadio.fm as well as other locations. You'll find Joe's free tips and advice on landing a job in this tough economy at: http://www.jobchangesecrets.com.




Nov 2nd 2009 @ 3:37PM edd
Thanks for your help
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Nov 7th 2009 @ 10:42AM nancy
What's a 'hiring manger'? Are they still hiring people who can spell the word manager? What's the answer to the problem of the all of the irregularities in the spelling of the English language that make it difficult to learn to do?
Nov 2nd 2009 @ 5:25PM Mary Schwartz
Very interesting comments. Thanks.
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Nov 7th 2009 @ 6:58AM bryce swan
someone misspelled "manager" as "manger" in headline. good luck, though.
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Nov 7th 2009 @ 8:07AM Debbie
Yeah, I noticed the "manger" right away! Cannot handle misspelled words or incorrect grammar from folks offering advice on job searches.
Nov 7th 2009 @ 6:45AM Corporate America
Corporate America wants younger workers, plain & simple ! I'm not buying they want older workers ! All I've seen is ALL EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY ! This sounds like a PR stunt to sway perception of corporate america !
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Nov 7th 2009 @ 9:48AM NancyY
I disagree with you. Corporations want people who are flexible, and who are used to working both hard and smart. They want the best worker for their money; This typically does NOT mean younger workers.
Nov 7th 2009 @ 9:29AM John
You are 100% correct-They will never learn from their massive mistakes.
Nov 7th 2009 @ 12:57PM gr8bsn
Sad but true. Younger workers will typically work for less because they don't know any better. Most employers don't want thinkers, they want bland, safe, uninteresting, conformist drones.
Nov 7th 2009 @ 1:17PM Will Walden
I agree completely! All this "advice" is just so much pablum and is written for younger people so they don't feel guilty when THEIR parents are out looking for work. Just lie about your age and you get into the interview. THEN, when they see you they find a reason to avoid hiring you. That's the way it works folks. By the way, try this, just place an ad for a job anywhere, in any field and find out who applies. It's a shock. So to all the do-gooder job placement "experts", YOU are the guys we should not be listening to! Who pays you guys anyway?
Nov 7th 2009 @ 6:56AM joe
Being 58 years old and unemployed, Orporate America feels threatened by senior workers. Todays hiring managers can't even answer the questions that we senior unemployed need answering. Young managers have no clue, they hire those close to their age, only to make excuses later on their performance. Corporate America we seasoned vetrans of the workforce are your answers to staying afloat. Don't make choices based on age, make choices on those who can make a difference.
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Nov 7th 2009 @ 7:03AM Kent
You should proofread your banners (headlines)! What is a hiring manger? Do I want to work for a hay feeding trough??
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Nov 7th 2009 @ 9:29AM John
The truth is-They are really |Mangers"Short term for Idiots
Nov 7th 2009 @ 10:09AM klswilcox
you sure don't mind eating the food that comes from the hay feeders work. while you run your fingers on mindless.
Nov 7th 2009 @ 1:31PM laura
I agree with you, Kent. When I read the headline and saw that it said"Hiring Mangers", I thought to myself...whoever wrote this article is going to give ME advice on job related things? They can't spell...and they're giving out advice? Maybe we can all learn a lesson...the first step in marketing yourself at ANY age...is to spell correctly.
Nov 7th 2009 @ 7:19AM ashley
gen,X FEELS THREANTEND BY hiring boomers , look what we did in the 60s. the bankers are rich and dont are not going to loose their pay roll to put others back to work , no matter what happens just as long as they still get lots of money, and the working people are paying, and are leaders say we need them at all cost
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Nov 7th 2009 @ 7:25AM Me-in-NY
My former manager (36 years old) fit that bill just as you described. She couldn't manage or lead, and considered me a threat to her job (I'm 53 and a seasoned veteran in customer service). I was let go due to 'budget cuts in a bad economic time' while her personal friends stayed employed in my department. The company finally let her go, along with her 'lap dog'. Nobody wants to hire their parent nor do they want to hire somebody with more experience who is a threat to their job. Our age group has the most experience and is the biggest threat to these kids. Would you hire somebody who can do your job better than you? You can write all the articles you want but it will not help hiring us AARP members.
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Nov 7th 2009 @ 9:27AM okcs55
I thought I was the only one with these feelings!!! I was given 2 weeks notice so the Boss could bring in his 22yr old daughter and I was told he couldn't afford us both...so bye bye. I have been in Customer Service all of my adult life (I am 62) and I cannot find another job. I am not being told I am to old, but I have been told they will get back to me. They are not going to hire us AARP members. I want to work, I have been out of work 5 months. I keep applying. What is funny is the Lady from WorkForce telling me, "oh no Honey, they can't discriminate on your age." I didn't say that they were discriminating, just that I thought my age was a problem. She didn't get it.
Nov 7th 2009 @ 9:48AM Megalodon
Me-in-NY is about as accurate as can be said about the problems we boomers encounter, except for the AARP, which may be just part of a metaphor here; I would never have anything whatsoever to do with that organization. I'm going to toss in younger generations' lack of respect for older veterans and the fact that their parents (our generation, so admit it) may have made a hell of a lot of bad choices bringing them up. The good kids in today's workplace are and always will be gems, but the rest comprise one big mediocre mess. Add "diversity", and we've got a huge problem that may be impossible to overcome (I'm just sayin'). BTW, I'm an excellent, problem-solving consulting geologist in California, just where they should be looking.
Nov 7th 2009 @ 10:22AM Frankie
This is SO true, Me-in-NY. My manager is a 25 year old who shirks responsibility as much as he can. Add to this that he is very moody. One minute he's smiling at you and the next he's barking orders. I'm old enough to be his father. Many times I resent him talking down to me, and I resent him talking down to even my coworkers close to his age. It's just unprofessional and inappropriate. He has found a great niche for me: doing most of his work. I'm no threat to him because I'm very careful to play it very subservient and docile. I've applied for a position in a different department (he's going to give me a great recommendation). Thing is, although I won't have anything to do with his department, I will have gone about 5 levels above him in the company.