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Hired! Second Time's a Charm

By AOL Jobs Contributor , Posted Apr 8th 2009 @ 5:04PM

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By Jessica Dickler, CNNMoney.com staff writer

Jobs: Shawn Oreschnick

NEW YORK -- "We'll keep your resume on file."

That's what many job seekers are told after they've been turned down for a position. And few ever get a second look -- unless they decide to be proactive and apply again.

That's exactly what happened to Shawn Oreschnick.

Hoping for a better position in advertising, Oreschnick, 39, started his search last April, while he was still gainfully employed with the same Minneapolis firm he had been with for six years.

Despite working with a recruiter, he only scored one interview for a director of planning position at Colle+McVoy, a midsized marketing agency also in Minneapolis.

As a director overseeing a team,the job was a step up from what Oreschnick had been doing, and after a full day interview with five members of the firm, he was turned down for the position because he lacked the experience necessary.

"It all could have ended right there," he said. But it didn't.

Oreschnick went back to business as usual at his old job, until January when he was laid off. Then, the unemployed father of one had to restart his search - this time without that safety net to fall back on.

Oreschnick worked with a recruiter again, networked and scoured job boards for openings, but, with few positions at his level and limited leads, he immediately felt discouraged. "It's no secret to any of us what's going on," he said of the dismal job market.

In February, Oreschnick heard about another opening at Colle+McVoy, this time for a senior account planner, which would be a lateral move. Despite being turned down in the past, "it would have been foolish for me to not look into it," he said.

Oreschnick first met with hiring manager David Denham for coffee to get reacquainted and then had two full-day follow up interviews where he met many of the people at the firm, including a few familiar faces from the first go round.

By March, Oreschnick had the job. He started on Monday.

"This was a right opportunity for Shawn based on what we were looking for," Denham said on Oreschnick's first day.

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The director of planning position has yet to be filled.

If at first you don't succeed...

Our career experts agree that job seekers shouldn't be so quick to cross an employer off the list just because they got rejected there in the past.

"You may not necessarily be right for that need but that doesn't mean they don't like you," said Dan King, principal of Career Planning and Management Inc. in Boston.

Not only did Oreschnick's previous interview at Colle+McVoy not count as a strike against him, but it became an advantage once he was familiar with a few members of the firm.

"Having those familiar faces made it a little easier for him and made him a little more than a known entity for the people who did the hiring," King said.

Gerry Crispin, co-owner of Careerxroads, a consulting firm based in New Jersey, encourages other job seekers to revisit the firms they have interviewed with before. "If you do see an opening you have a higher probability of getting up to bat the second time but in the interim you have to make an effort to increase your experience so you're more viable when you go back," he said.

Crispin says it is important to maintain contacts at the company starting immediately after your first interview. "Typically, every three to six months you might want to touch base with one of the folks you were engaged with," he suggested. "Just tell them where you are and what you are up to."

That way, "You become part of their pipeline for the future."

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Danita

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April 22 2009 at 5:03 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Savana

It sounds unrealistic to me too. I'd think about making your own position. With what we have available today you can easily hire yourself and work for no one but you. I started over a year ago and I'm happy that I did. Look for your own business at home. Look for residual income. There's no inventory in my business and I like it that way. We help people save money on healthcare and help people make money at home. Daily checks & a monthly residual check. No matter what you get into, do it soon.
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April 20 2009 at 9:28 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Lindsay

how many people really get to meet with the hiring manager for coffee? to me that is unrealistic.

April 20 2009 at 2:32 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Billy R. Oberding

Hey Mike,

Read your e-mail and wanted to add, that you are absolutley correct. Owning your own business is the truest sense of freedom, both finacially and with regards to time. But there are SO many scams, who do you trust? I live here in Nevada and have tried looking into just about everything possible for months with out any success.

Take care Mike and God Bless.

Billy

April 20 2009 at 2:01 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Lee

Companies play the game. I spent an afternoon downtown filling out a long application for a company - got dressed professionally (nicer than 50% of others there) - and when I turned in my application with a resume for the position that I was more than qualified for, I was immediately told if I didn't hear from them in a week, I was not going to be interviewed. Well here it is 10 days later. No interview. I know that the company was only going through the motions. They had to advertise, but at the same time were going to promotehire from within. Why waste peoples time when gas is expensive and another business may want to actually hire from outside?

April 20 2009 at 1:03 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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April 20 2009 at 12:37 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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April 20 2009 at 12:31 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Helen

As a recruiter and employment coach, I regularly re-submit my applicant's resume after 6 months, though, some companies require that you wait one full year.

But this a perfect example of why you should continue an interview and interview WELL even when you realize a position is not the right one OR you have a hunch that your interview is only a "formality" and not the real deal. If something else comes up and you've previously made a good impression, a department can request your return at any time. I've seen this happen numerous times. Or, if you see another opening at the same company down the road, you can mention you met with "such and such" and please contact them for more information about your work history. This puts you one step ahead of the pile of resume submissions.

With the internet. it is simple to send an e-mail every few months as a reminder that you are still available. So make sure you get a business card while on your interview whether you are interested in that position or not. :-)

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April 20 2009 at 12:07 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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El Jibaro De Lytle creek

Helen have you read my comment? So what is a former whistleblower supposed to do when he/she is deemed unemployable? Me Thinks this egghead lacks common sense!
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April 20 2009 at 1:18 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Ralph Atlas

Talk to me!

April 20 2009 at 12:02 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
CindyAnnOlvs

I applied three times at my current job, and yes, I too had my pride and did not want to apply a third time, but third time was a charm, and I had two different departments asking for an interview, 7 years later I am extremely happy and glad i did not let my pride stand in my way. I live on the premise everything happens for a reason, It's all part of GOD's plan.

April 20 2009 at 11:41 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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